In this exclusive conversation, Bethany Murphy (Event Marketing, 6sense) shares her 8-step framework for creating events that drive real impact.
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Thanks for tuning into this exclusive edition of GTM News Desk presented by the
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TAC Network. This show is hosted by me, Nick Bennett, and my co-host, Mark Kill
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ins.
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Now let's get to the goods on with the show.
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Welcome to the exclusive content with Bethany.
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This is where we're going to dive deep into her actual playbook of how she is
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having so much success with Sixth Sense.
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So we've got a few questions to further the conversation.
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First one that we'd love to dive into is tell us about the most successful
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event
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that you've executed in the past couple of years.
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I mean, I know we've talked about breakthrough, but I would have to say that
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it was breakthrough 2023 for many, many reasons.
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But it was my first breakthrough that I kind of managed to soup to nuts.
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At Sixth Sense, it was the largest one yet.
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We had a thousand attendees with us in lovely Frisco, Texas.
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It was three and a half days of amazing content and experiences.
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From the hotel, we had a buyout at the new Omni PGA Frisco.
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Shout out to them. It's an amazing property evening events, like cowboy hats.
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We had a corporate Coachella theme party.
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We had a drone show in the content, right?
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12 general sessions over 50 breakouts, 75 speakers.
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And it all just kind of came together and really exceeded my expectations.
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So I've got to say that that's my favorite.
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And of course, like I've got to put a plug in on the metric side, but, you know
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from a metrics perspective, again, breakthrough is a huge line item for us.
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And so we need to make sure that we're hitting all of our goals to be able to
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secure budget year over year.
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But we hit our attendee goal.
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We hit our goal for a number of accounts on site.
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We hit our influence pipe goal and we held over 500 meetings with accounts.
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Onsite at the event, which is pretty awesome.
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But I think my favorite statistic of all, the last two years for breakthrough,
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we've had 100% of accounts that attend breakthrough renew with Sixth Sense.
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And so that for me is so awesome because it's a huge motivator internally for
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our sales and customer success teams to like want to get people to break
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through.
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Right.
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It's like get your account to break through like your golden, right?
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And that's super cool.
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For an event to have that much impact on the business.
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I have a little bit of a follow up question there.
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So like when I, when I worked for Alice, we actually were, you know,
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Sixth Sense was a customer and we would do the gifting station every, every
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year.
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I'm curious, like what made you switch from where breakthrough was to that new
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location?
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I didn't make it last year, but I did see the property and it looked amazing.
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I'm just curious because there's a lot of thoughts and questions that go into
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like,
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Hey, if I've been at this property for so long and it's been successful, like
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why switch?
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Yeah.
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I mean, I love venue sourcing.
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I could have a whole podcast alone talk about venue sourcing, but I think for
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me,
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it's like finding unique venues, right?
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It just kind of changes.
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It just changes the event, right?
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And, and then there's certain hotels that I love and I would do events there
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year after year.
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I think for me, like having finding this Omni PGA for scope, super random,
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right?
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It's, I mean, outside of Dallas brand new hotel, we were able to take over the
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whole
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hotel, which from an event's perspective is super cool, right?
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Like branding.
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I mean, we could really kind of have, have a run of the place, which you don't
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often
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get when you plan events.
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Um, so I think that was a huge motivator for me and just having a resort where
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we
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could have like almost everything outside, right?
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I mean, we had all our meals outside, every evening event was outside.
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And that's hard to do, especially in Phoenix when it's hot, what is usually
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hot.
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And, you know, I, I just think it adds to the event when you, when you move it
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around.
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That's not to say that every year we will be moving because it's just getting
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to
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the size that that becomes difficult, right?
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But I think you have a lot of flexibility when events are between, you know,
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under
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500, 600 attendees, like you have a lot of options.
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And yes, is it easier for my team if I do the same venue every year?
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Sure.
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But it's not as fun.
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Got to keep it exciting.
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Stask, quote, break that status quo.
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You're going to get to the proven method of how you did this event.
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So before we get to the next question and how, and that question is going to be
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about
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how you impact like this amazing event, you know, you do it every time.
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You just create an amazing event no matter what it is, you know, an elevated
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dinner breakthrough.
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My question and I challenge you, Bethany, 50 plus sessions, it seems like too
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much
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content.
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Would you have that same amount of content next time or is it going to be more
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or less?
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We are cutting one track.
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So we're going from four tracks to three tracks.
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And, you know, I, it is a lot of content for sure.
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I mean, it's definitely a lot of content, but every year we're kind of changing
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things up.
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This year, every year, we do this session called six, six street live, right?
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So it's how six cents uses six cents.
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And it's become like the most popular session at the event.
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And it's always on the last day.
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And so it's the last morning, the night after our party where people go crazy
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and
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we'll do like a late kind of brunch with bloody mary's of amosas and then we'll
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go
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into six street live for this coming breakthrough.
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I had an idea to change it up and do that session before the welcome reception.
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So start at like five o'clock, go from five to six 30.
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We'll probably have some fun drinks and maybe past apps and stuff during the
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session.
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And then we'll kind of go straight into the welcome reception so that Thursday
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we
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can really keep that content really in the weeds, like more workshops, people
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that
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want kind of in depth content that we don't really have time for during the
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main event.
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Right.
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So and it gives people the opportunity if they don't want to stay for Thursday,
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that's fine.
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You know, stay for the party and then go home Thursday morning.
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But I mean, to your point, it's, it's hard, right?
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What's the right amount of content?
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I mean, I think that's really hard.
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We always get, we spend a lot of time reviewing attendee feedback.
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And it's like there aren't enough, you know, beginner sessions.
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There's too many advanced.
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I mean, you can't please everybody.
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But I think we just want to make sure that we're giving our customers a
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platform
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through the event to tell their story with six cents.
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And that has a huge impact for other people to learn.
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Right.
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And so it's a work in progress, I would say.
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OK, that's fair.
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That's a good answer.
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I give you an A on that answer, Bethany.
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It's good.
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I like that.
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I like that.
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I was stressed.
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So I got like golden pen now.
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Next, where's your pen?
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I expect you to take notes like myself with a tack notebook.
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Give us your proven framework, Bethany, to never have a shitty event.
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What do you need to do?
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To never have a shitty event.
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That's that's my goal, really.
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Um, so I think number one, and we've kind of touched on this in our segment
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number one,
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but you really need to have executive support from the onset, right?
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And so you can't have a successful event without starting at the top and making
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sure that the executives are aligned, that everyone has support, that you have
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secured budget, right?
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I feel like a lot of people start planning an event and they're halfway down
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the road and they don't even have budget for it yet.
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Like don't bother.
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Make sure you have buy in and budget like before you do anything.
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I think that's number one.
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Number two.
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And again, we talked about this, but define your event goals, objectives,
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and metrics for success.
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Right?
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Like this is crucial because if you don't do this really early in the planning,
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you're going to lose sight of why you're even doing the event.
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And likely you're not going to be successful and not going to hit your goals.
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So that I think includes creating an event brief marks.
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Favorite.
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He drove me nuts about this when we were at Drift together.
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Where's your event brief?
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Make sure you have a brief, make sure that that aligns all internal
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stakeholders.
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Right?
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It has an event overview, your target audience, your timeline, your KPIs,
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your messaging.
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That is your kind of go to document to make sure that all teams are aligned.
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And that's important before you even again, kind of start that in depth
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planning
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process.
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Then we talked about venue sourcing, right?
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You got to have a cool venue that works for the event.
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I think that's number three, right?
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You got to figure out where the event's going to be and then where all of your
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evening events or ancillary events are going to be.
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And that's got to happen pretty early, right?
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And I think sometimes, you know, we struggle here with like planning ahead,
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like in this environment, like you really got to be planning ahead for many,
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many
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reasons, engage your attendees and your sponsors throughout the lead up to the
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event.
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Right.
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I think that's really important.
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It's like we have people register.
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We've launched registration for breakthrough 24 in December of 23.
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That's a really long time prior to the event.
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Right.
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And so how do we come up with ways to engage those people and keep them excited
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for those 10 months leading up to the event, right?
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And sponsors too.
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Sponsors play a huge role in a lot of our events and go a long way in offset
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ting
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our spend.
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And so how do we make sure that those sponsors are engaged?
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They're helping us promote the event, right?
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I think that's super important.
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Use your your partners to promote and help you get attendees there and just
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make
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sure that's happening.
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And then that that's not forgotten about throughout the process.
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Event promotion, right?
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This is kind of a line with that.
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But again, like have a really in depth audience acquisition plan.
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And I think, and I talk about this a lot, like I am super lucky here at Sixth
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Sense
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because our internal CS and sales teams are obsessed with Sixth Sense events.
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Like we launch registration for an event, a dinner, whatever, like sells out,
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right?
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And that's amazing.
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But I think they are so on board because we've proven again and again the value
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of events on the business, right?
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On the pipeline, on the upsell, cross sell, whatever it is, we've proven the
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value
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and we've proven that we're going to create amazing experiences.
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And so I would really try to, you know, and I'm lucky.
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I stepped into Sixth Sense and that was already kind of here and in the culture
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But if you don't have that, it could be really challenging, right?
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Like Mark and I went through this at Drift like you got to get sales on board.
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Like sales has to understand the value of getting prospects to events.
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And that is hard.
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And I think we spend a lot of time
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during that this kind of attendee acquisition period of enablement.
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So I would say internal enablement is also a huge component of what we do here.
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And we spend a ton of time on enabling our internal teams.
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We have like 50 slide decks with links and resources and past, you know,
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Salesforce campaigns and all this data that we can give them.
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Try to help them drive attendance to our events.
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Step six, I would say, is design the experience, right?
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I think again, it all comes down to the experience that you're going to create
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on site at these events.
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And so think about and, and yes, like I'm lucky.
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I have a healthy budget.
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I know everyone does not.
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You can create really cool experiences and personalize things without a lot of
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money, right?
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And so just think about creative ways that you can do that and that you can
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make
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the event memorable and fun for people and networking, right?
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We get constant, like there's not enough networking.
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There's not enough networking.
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So think about ways that you can, I'm not a fan of forced networking.
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But think about ways you can organically create networking experiences
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on site, you know, during your event.
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I think seven execute the event, right?
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That's easier said than done.
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Everyone wants a flawless event, right?
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Exclude the event, do the best you can.
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And, and I would say, like I spend a lot of time with my team in advance of an
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event
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walking through the attendee journey, right?
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They go from the hotel lobby.
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They get to register.
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What happens, right?
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Where do they go?
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Just think about all the things that happen on site and, and where can you put
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like fun activations and experiences throughout again and create that amazing
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journey on site.
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And then eight, which I think most important from an event marketing
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perspective,
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measure and analyze the data post event, right?
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Collect as much data as you possibly can.
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I'll give a quick shout out to Bizibow.
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Bizibow is our event platform and we have these, we use these super cool badges
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through them called click badges.
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They're basically like give us heat mapping information.
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It tells us how long people were in each room, where they were, how many people
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entered each session, like super cool.
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It's also lead retrieval for our sponsors and for six cents.
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Does a lot of cool things.
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Collect as much data as you possibly can.
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So that that will inform your strategy moving forward.
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And then I think this, this also goes to the follow up plan, right?
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Have a very in depth thought through follow up plan.
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A month before the event, don't wait to figure out what your follow up is.
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When the event's over, right?
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It's too late at that point.
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You need to have a follow up plan in place a month before you need to start
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getting those emails, those blogs, like as much as you can possibly do in
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advance
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so that the event is over and the follow up goes out immediately, right?
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And then you can watch the money flow in, right?
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Watch that pipeline come in, hopefully.
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So that's it.
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Eight steps can have a great event.
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So easy.
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I mean, come on, how can this be?
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Geez.
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Oh, speak speaking of someone that hasn't doesn't have an event background,
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right?
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Well, well done.
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Yeah, I completely evaked it in my entire bed.
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Expert.
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I have no idea why I was in high-risk, see mode air meat.
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I mean, like, I mean, sure, I was thrown into events.
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Luckily, I had Bethany on my team at drift.
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Shout out to Jana to, I mean, Jana was there and then then Bethany came in.
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I mean, my God, like I, I would have been screwed if I didn't have the two of
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you.
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But you missed the most important thing, Bethany.
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You missed the most important thing.
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Dress to impress.
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That's the most important thing when it comes to events.
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Dress to impress.
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Okay.
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I like that.
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You guys, you get to take a page.
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I'll add nine steps.
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Number nine number nine.
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Actually, that should be zero.
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You dress to impress.
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I mean, I'm half, half kidding.
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Kind of.
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All right.
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That was incredible.
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That was just incredible.
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Nick, do we have other questions we want to ask Bethany because I feel like,
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you know,
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we're going to over like thousands of dollars for this, this masterclass in
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events.
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So the next question is, so let's do you, you talked a little bit about data.
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I'm a huge believer of data.
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And I think that, you know, data as a, as an event marketer, the field marketer
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as anyone in revenue marketing, if you can paint the beautiful picture using
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the
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numbers, one, you get more budget and two, you get more headcount and you get,
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hopefully the ability to do a lot more cool things.
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So this is a two part question.
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The first part is what data in multiple things helps you inform your event
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strategy.
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And then the second piece is what are the KPIs that are most important to you
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and
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that you think plays, you know, what feedback plays a role in that?
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Yeah.
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I mean, I think I talked a little bit about the sources of data, right?
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But we spend a lot of time.
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Again, pre event setting up dashboards and we have an awesome mops team, right?
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But we have really complex Salesforce dashboards that help us kind of compile
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all the data in one nice buttoned up place, right?
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So pre event, we're looking at number of accounts registered customers versus
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prospects, ICP, right?
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And then, you know, I think we're, we're starting to transition into,
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we used to have a pre event dashboard and a post event dashboard.
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Now we're just kind of trying to centralize and, you know, KPIs that were
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super focused on registrations.
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I mean, breakthrough, like we have a registration goal.
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All of our like large proprietary events, we have a registration goal and, you
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know, almost more importantly is the show rate, right?
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I mean, virtual events, I think we all know it's like 40% of you're lucky.
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We strive for like a 95% show rate for all of our events and for breakthrough,
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we pretty much hit that every year number of accounts in attendance.
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So we look at our total number of accounts and we say we want 60% of all of our
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accounts to attend breakthrough, right?
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And that's important for us because again, we want these accounts to renew and,
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and we see huge success with accounts that attend breakthrough.
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So that's a huge metric for us.
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Number of meetings on site and we touched upon this a little bit, but
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I've never seen this before.
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I came to sixth sense, but we are super focused on getting a meeting booked in
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advance with every single account that attends breakthrough.
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And that takes a ton of enablement and a ton of time internally to do that.
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But we last year, we had a goal of 500.
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I think we had 539 meetings on site at breakthrough.
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It takes a lot of time.
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And to Mark's point earlier about the agenda, it's hard to fit that many
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meetings in the agenda, right?
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Like we don't want to overlap with keynotes.
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We don't want to overlap with the evening, right?
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Like it's hard, but it really helps us understand the account and,
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and build those relationships, which again is a huge part of what events
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do for the business, right?
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Is that relationship building sourced and influence pipeline, right?
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Like these are the two kind of metrics, I mean, especially sourced.
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We aim for 10x ROI for source pipeline, which is really hard, especially
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at our user conference, which is 98% customers.
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That's really hard.
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And that goes back to what I talked about earlier is like every event can't
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have
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the same goals, right?
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So the goals for breakthrough, I mean, that 10x again, like we're not
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with the ACV of a new deal, like that's not the same as a 20K, 50K upsell,
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right?
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And so the source pipeline for breakthrough, we do dip below the 10x.
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Although maybe not this year.
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Well, we're going to try and influence pipeline, right?
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I mean, it's super interesting to watch that number
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and to see again the overall impact that events can have and how many people we
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can touch through our events.
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And then lastly, I would say revenue, right?
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Like I have huge revenue goals, especially for breakthrough, but from a
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sponsorship perspective and a ticket revenue perspective, this is a huge way
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for me to like offset our events spend, right?
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And again, like that money isn't going in my pocket, unfortunately, but it's
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going toward creating a more amazing attendee experience, right?
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So the more tickets we sell, we get a lot of requests for comp tickets and
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free sponsor and all the sense like, no, we got to make money, right?
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Like that's part of what this event does for the business is, you know, get
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that revenue and offset the event spent.
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So those are kind of our key KPIs.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah, that was fantastic.
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So people first go to market, you know, we're big believers and, you know,
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advocates of that events.
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I mean, arguably one of the most people first things you can do as part of
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your go to market.
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I mean, seriously, what though is the most epic event when it comes to the
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people involved and just the people experiencing the event together that you
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think you've ever, you've ever done.
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And then I'll give you maybe a two part question.
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It's up to you if you want to answer it, no pressure though.
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The most epic event does not have to be B2B by the way, FB2B, screw B2B,
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that you attended.
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That was an amazing people first experience.
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So the one you hosted that was amazing and the one you attended.
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My favorite event that I've ever planned was in 2019.
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Um, I was working for LogMan at the time now go to, we had our sales
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incentive in Dubai at the four seasons.
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And it was crazy.
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I mean, Dubai is so, everything is so over the top and Dubai to begin with.
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And the final evening, I had 95 four wheel SUVs pull up to the four seasons.
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We loaded people like four by four drove out to the desert and did dune
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bugging for like 30 minutes out into this like amazing, like the middle of
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the sand dunes, basically.
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And I had a whole event set up there with like fire throwers and camels and
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this like amazing entertainment.
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And it was just super cool and so different.
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And it was just one of those experiences that I, I hope people will never
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forget.
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That's tremendous.
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That's, uh, that means, or Nick, I mean, that's what we'll do next.
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Just put it on the left.
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But we're going to do my.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Perch the tickets are not sure.
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It's just my old money going to Dubai, but like, if someone was paying for me
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to go
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there, like, sure, why not?
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Could be a tack six cents event in Dubai.
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Who knows?
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I like it.
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I like it.
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Okay.
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And then did you answer the question though?
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Did you, did you want to answer the second question?
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Like, what's the most big non B2B events?
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Like, yeah.
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I mean, I think for me as like, you know, being an events professional, I think
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Dreamforce to me is always one of those events that's just so cool to go to and
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see come together.
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Like it's just, I used to go back in the day when it was like a hundred
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thousand
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attendees and it would like take over it.
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Now it's much smaller and I think different.
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But it was just so cool.
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Like when I was younger in my career just to go and see like everything they
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did to
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take over the city and just create these like amazing experiences in this crazy
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expo hall.
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And again, they're selling sponsorships for like millions of dollars.
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It's just like super impressive all around.
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Bethany, they do so much.
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You are a.
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I was going to say prodigy.
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Maybe that's not the right adjective.
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A queen of events, you know, give yourself whatever you want.
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You deserve it.
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Your event execution.
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When I was at drift, we did flash.
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The first event, by the way, that a company pretty much in our space did after
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the
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pandemic, we did this in March 2022 and we went for it.
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And I thought it was great.
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I thought people loved it and that we set the toll in the momentum for the next
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, you
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know, nine months of that year because of what we did at flash, Bethany.
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So it really not we as you.
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I didn't do anything again.
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I don't know what I'm doing when it comes to events.
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So again, Bethany, thank you so much.
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Yes, of course.
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Honestly, thank you, Bethany.
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I learned a ton again as someone that has done this.
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I learned even more from you.
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